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Hi! We are Pam and Gilbert. We’ve been making videos as souvenirs of our cycling adventures since 2008.
We believe that you can travel the world on bicycle without quitting your day job. We’ve figured out ways to make this work for us and every year we refine our system.
Examples:
- Destination based
- One way travel
- Pack light
Solution: folding bikes
We hope our touring videos give you some impressions of what fun it is travel by bike.
We believe that you can travel the world on bicycle without quitting your day job. We’ve figured out ways to make this work for us and every year we refine our system.
Examples:
- Destination based
- One way travel
- Pack light
Solution: folding bikes
We hope our touring videos give you some impressions of what fun it is travel by bike.
Dual Chainring, a 12 speed alternative? [ H&H 33/50T 1000km Test ]
Is the new 12 speed the game changer we were looking for?
Or could a dual chainring be a better option for those reluctant to pay the premium price of the P Line 12 speed? We have now toured over 1000 km with a dual chainring, so we’re ready to talk about how it worked out.
Park Tool Crank Puller CWP-7 [ amzn.to/4b12iXc ]
Park Tool Bottom Bracket BBT-22 [ amzn.to/4bX8qAR ]
Park Tool PolyLube Grease PPL-1 [ amzn.to/3yXpIiJ ]
SRAM PC-879 Chain [ amzn.to/3yXpIiJ ]
Topeak Ninja C Bike Chain Tool [ amzn.to/3z8Qrca ]
00:00 Introduction
00:25 Brompton 12 speed
01:23 H&H 33/50T Dual Chainring
01:45 Installation
03:55 Test Drive
04:28 Changing gears
05:18 Conclusion
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Image by Mahmudul Hassan from Vecteezy [ Test Drive ]
Or could a dual chainring be a better option for those reluctant to pay the premium price of the P Line 12 speed? We have now toured over 1000 km with a dual chainring, so we’re ready to talk about how it worked out.
Park Tool Crank Puller CWP-7 [ amzn.to/4b12iXc ]
Park Tool Bottom Bracket BBT-22 [ amzn.to/4bX8qAR ]
Park Tool PolyLube Grease PPL-1 [ amzn.to/3yXpIiJ ]
SRAM PC-879 Chain [ amzn.to/3yXpIiJ ]
Topeak Ninja C Bike Chain Tool [ amzn.to/3z8Qrca ]
00:00 Introduction
00:25 Brompton 12 speed
01:23 H&H 33/50T Dual Chainring
01:45 Installation
03:55 Test Drive
04:28 Changing gears
05:18 Conclusion
#brompton #bromptonbicycle #2bikes4adventure
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Image by Mahmudul Hassan from Vecteezy [ Test Drive ]
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Fiido X: As good as it looks?
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The new Fiido X retains the minimalist aesthetics of the D11, but introduces new features like a torque sensor, an improved magnesium alloy frame and folding mechanism, a redesigned battery/seat post, a keypad-based security system, integrated lighting, and hydraulic disk brakes. Is it as good as it looks? We will see in this video. Fiido X: clck.ru/3AL5tq $CDN50 Rebate Coupon : 2Bikes4Adventur...
Wotancraft Mini-Basket and Grab'n Go Bottle Pouch - Review
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Wotancraft expands its offering of vintage military looking bags and accessories, introducing the Grab'n Go water bottle pouch and a smaller basket bag. Let’s look at them in more detail. Grab'n Go Front Bottle Pouch [ bit.ly/42FeAlq ] Pioneer Mini Basket Bag for Brompton [ bit.ly/49GEW9w ] 00:00 Introduction 00:13 Grab'n Go Bottle Pouch 01:39 Pioneer Mini-Basket 03:22 Conclusion Copyrights Mus...
Failure Reports [Tern Tool, Vincita Sightseer, Luggage Frame]
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We review product failures and the associated lessons learned. Three products are discussed: Tern Tool, Vincita Sightseer Bag and the Brompton Luggage Frame. Brompton Tookit [ amzn.to/3P25ERq ] Topeak Ninja Chaintool [ amzn.to/3uXYxTs ] Vincita Sightseer [ amzn.to/49xJaAj ] Brompton Luggage Frame (S-Type) [ amzn.to/49VqslF ] 00:00 Introduction 00:26 Tern Tool 01:19 Vincita Sightseer 03:09 Bromp...
Decathlon DIY Brompton Touring Backpack
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Build a Brompton touring bag using a Decathlon waterproof backpack. 00:00 Intoduction 01:00 Design Criteria 01:23 Itiwit Backpack 01:57 DIY Assembly 03:06 Sicily Test Ride 03:43 Conclusion Details concerning the Decathlon bag used (UK Site): www.decathlon.co.uk/p/waterproof-backpack-20l-black/_/R-p-149215?mc=8387664 Relatively similar 35L bag on Amazon.com: amzn.to/3UT8Suq #brompton #bromptonbi...
Brompton Light AMPP500 [vs Ravemen LR1600 / Magicshine ALLTY 1500 S]
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The Brompton AMPP500 sells for $100 US. Is it really worth it? Or is there a better alternative? We look at the Ravemen LR1600 and Magicshine ALLTY 1500 S. magicshine.com/?ref=TZ6101HzqOIbZW 15% Discount Code: 2bikes4adventure15 Cateye AMPP500 [ amzn.to/49CBSLw ] Brompton AMPP500 Light [ amzn.to/3H6S6zJ ] Ravemen LR1600 Bike Light [ amzn.to/3tJpnOy ] Ravemen GoPro Adaptor [ amzn.to/47nV0eq ] Ro...
The new 12 speed Bromptons
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Brompton presented a prototype 12 speed C-Line Electric in Frankfurt this summer. Let’s review this new gearing setup. 00:00 Eurobike 2023 00:24 Dual Drive 12 Speed gearing 01:02 Gear overlap 01:19 Chainring 02:29 Alternative 12 Speed setup 02:40 Conclusion References: UA-cam: Eurobike 2023: Neuheiten von Brompton | 12-Gang Variante und Farbupdates ua-cam.com/video/T5-p0PoVVtg/v-deo.htmlsi=IW4S...
Bicycle Headlights: What you should know
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How many lumens do I need? Is maximum beam distance realistic? Why is my headlight battery duration different than advertised? Find out in this introduction to bicycle headlight video. 00:00 Introduction 00:15 Light Output 01:09 Beam Distance 03:22 Beam Pattern 04:21 Runtime 06:07 Summary #brompton #2bikes4adventure #flashlight #bicyclelight References: ANSI/PLATO FL1 2019 Standard [ www.plato-...
Wotancraft EDC Bicycle Pouches [Brompton, Birdy, Dahon, Tern…]
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Wotancraft have recently released a line of Every Day Carry small pouches that breaks the price barrier and offers the same vintage aesthetic for a more modest budget and bonus, they are compatible with multiple bicycle types (Brompton, Birdy, Tern, Dahon....). Wotancraft web site: bit.ly/48zw7y4 00:00 Introduction 00:24 Front Bottle Pouch 01:15 Front Pouch 02:13 Multi-Function Saddle Pouch 03:...
Contact Urban vs Marathon - A 1200km Brompton Test
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Should you change your trusted Schwalbe Marathon for the Continental Contact Urban? That's what we will discuss following our 1200km evaluation trip in Eastern Europe. Schwalbe Marathon 35-349 [ amzn.to/3QOoQ6T ] Continental Contact Urban Folding 35-349 [ amzn.to/3P65UPR ] 00:00 Introduction 00:26 Puncture Protection 01:47 Tread 02:57 Comfort 03:23 Weight 03:42 Rolling Resistance 04:07 Ease of ...
Taillight Camera: One Month Review [MagicShine SeeMee DV]
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In case of collision from the rear, it will likely be your word against the driver’s or worse, their lawyer’s. Could video footage help your case? We review the new SeeMee DV from MagicShine. magicshine.com/?ref=TZ6101HzqOIbZW 15% Discount Code: 2bikes4adventure15 00:00 Introduction 00:34 MagicShine SeeMee DV unboxing 01:18 Installation 01:43 Four Light Modes 02:00 Battery Life 02:27 Camera Pro...
Daytime Running Lights [ Feat: Bontrager Flare & Ravemen FR160 ]
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Do daytime running lights actually improve bicycle safety? Should they be flashing or steady? We will investigate in this video. www.trekbikes.com/ca/en_CA/daytime_running_lights/ www.ravemen.com/FR/FR160.html Ravemen FR160 [ amzn.to/42gjoMw ] 0:00 Introduction 0:16 Cars vs Bicycles Statistics 0:43 Most common crashes 1:14 Daytime Running Lights Research 2:06 Steady or Flashing? 2:48 Rear Light...
Vincita Big Nash Rack Bag
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The Big Nash, winner of a 2023 Taipei Cycle Design and Innovation Award, is almost double the size of the original Nash bag, but is it better? That's what we will investigate in this video. vincita.cc/collections/brompton-bags/products/big-nash-rack-bag 00:00 Introduction 00:46 Nash vs Big Nash 01:03 Installation 01:43 Locking Mechanism 02:02 Inside Storage 02:23 Side Pockets 02:57 Fabrics 03:2...
2 More Ways to Fly [ Vincita Sightseer & Cabin Carry-On ]
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The Vincita Sightseer and Cabin Carry-on offer two more ways to fly with our Brompton. Brompton B&W Case Amazon.com [ amzn.to/3XmhM19 ] 00:00 Introduction 00:26 Selection Criteria 00:57 B&W Hardcase 01:26 Samsonite Hardcase 02:19 IKEA Dimpa 02:50 Vincita Sightseer 05:48 Cabin Carry-On References amzn.to/41UhmkZ vincita.cc/collections/brompton-bags/products/sightseer-3-5-travel-set www.washingto...
Vincita Brompton Keeper Box Review
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The Vincita Keeper Box offers a well thought out solution for those who want the best way to secure their Brompton in their vehicle. It’s a great way to protect our favorite bicycle. vincita.cc/collections/brompton-bags/products/keeper-brompton-box amzn.to/45mdNH7 Copyrights: Video by Marek Roman Odintsov on Pexels [Car driving through countryside] Music: The Day is Close - The 126ers #brompton...
DAHON K3 Plus: Competing against the P Line?
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DAHON K3 Plus: Competing against the P Line?
Brompton vs Dahon Mariner D8: Which is right for you?
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Brompton vs Dahon Mariner D8: Which is right for you?
Brompton Handlebar Bags - [Wotancraft vs Craft Cadence]
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Brompton Handlebar Bags - [Wotancraft vs Craft Cadence]
Explaining Brompton Gearing - [Including P & T Line]
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Explaining Brompton Gearing - [Including P & T Line]
Can a Brompton Climb? - GCN Challenge Explained
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Can a Brompton Climb? - GCN Challenge Explained
Brompton Small Bags [Wotancraft vs Ortlieb Mini-O bag]
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Brompton Small Bags [Wotancraft vs Ortlieb Mini-O bag]
A $2k Mid-Drive eBike Review: Avadar C3
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A $2k Mid-Drive eBike Review: Avadar C3
Brompton Acceleration - Myth or Reality?
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Brompton Acceleration - Myth or Reality?
Dahon HIT: A robust entry level bike with a secret
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Dahon HIT: A robust entry level bike with a secret
The "Basket Case" Showdown - Which one is the best? [Brompton vs Wotancraft]
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The "Basket Case" Showdown - Which one is the best? [Brompton vs Wotancraft]
Great vid. We're refurbing our Bromptons for touring and one of the FIRST upgrades will be to switch to a waxed chain, making handling the bike and chain a lot less dirty.
Any wax in particular you recommend? Looking forward to your video(s) about exploring Spain by train+Brompton. PS Hope you were OK we us using a few seconds of your “42mph on a Brompton” video in here: ua-cam.com/video/LFZT9NaxLxA/v-deo.html :-)
Thank you.
I came back here after a long time for Accent!
Great video as ever, thank you. Is there a particular reason why you selected the chain that you did, rather than the standard Brompton PC10?
No particular reason except it was the model recommended by our local Brompton dealer when we asked for a chain replacement for our M6R (maybe they were out of PC-10?).
@@2Bikes4Adventure - thanks for your prompt reply! Off to my local dealer to get my stubborn BB removed and I'll be following your lead with the H&H Dual Chainring. Inspirational stuff.
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I've just binge watched some of your technical videos regarding Bromptons, and I must say I'm baffled by the quality of your explanation as much as your production value, which very much go hand in hand. Thank you for putting out quality content, it goes a long way
Stay tuned for more technical videos in the future
@@2Bikes4Adventure ill be here for it !
I just got my rental¹ Brompton with the telescopic seatpost and M-Type handlebar. My inseam is 85 cm, but I'm did the testride most comfortably with the telescopic post fully extended to it's maximum. The good thing is that this position also is most closely to the position I had on the Tern Joe C21 that needs replacing², which I rode somewhere between trekking and racing positions. ¹ Rental to try it a year before purchasing one, or not. ² The aluminium frame broke right at the seatpost insert above the top framebar.
Thanks for this video…very informative indeed. ❤
Riding a bike and understanding it in detail was really a new concept. If the second hand market here were popular or less unregulated, I would probably consider seriously too. It's excellent for storage and portability.
It's a nice comparison from a design perspective with technical approach. Accidentally that helped me choosing wheel size between 16" and 20" with gear already near the ground (< 4"). It's just amazing how much knowledge there was. (I've been riding bikes just 40 years but just knowing how to replacing tires.) Your systematic way and articulation were enhancing.
This was greatly handful on my buying it (40th anniversary ver) a month ago. It showed what to consider from a science approach and experience. Thanks a lot.
This was really educational on gear inches and leverage. It's been helpful from your other videos combined. I checked the single speed line was 50T on its formal website. For the last part on a 4.5% slope (equal to 22:1), how hard could that be for an average-fit person close to 60? Thanks.
Very informative video, thanks👍
Would you happen to know if this can be used with an electric Brompton? Thanks for all your videos! They’ve been really informative ❤
@@pams3887 It would not work on an electric Brompton front luggage block.
Great video, thanks. The comments here are also really helpful, much better than the Brompton groups I used to be a member of, one of which I left when some bloke had his frame gold plated.
My wife Linda (now 69yr) and I (73yr), first bought our Brompton (M6R with a 44 T chain ring) in 2019. It was an indulgence in a way, as we saw it as an easy bike to transfer and ride for holidays in Europe. Our first overseas trip to Europe was soon after purchase, and included a ride over Col du Tourmalet with all our luggage, then some rides in the Dolomites near Bormio (including Stelvio, and a ride up to Passo di Gavia - in June 2019) Returning home it has become our everyday bikes, and my Brompton has done over 38,000 km in 5 years. Looking to the future (we’re not getting younger) we are looking at the Titanium 12 Speed bike, a much lighter bike at 9.2kg (including a rear rack) However this bike has a 50T chain ring. That means that riding on the flat at a cadence of 90RPM, your top speed will be 49.4km/hr. That is ridiculous gear to have; only an elite pro -cyclist could achieve that speed on a flat smooth road (without riding in a peloton) On steep hills, assuming a ‘grind’ cadence of 40RPM my speed on a 12 speed Titanium in the lowest gear would be 5.5km/hr. (which is the same as my current Brompton M6R with a 44T chain ring - determined from www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html) ie the 12 speed Titanium currently offers NO benefit other than a lower weight. Brompton currently doesn’t offer a 44T Chainwheel on their Titanium bikes. The 44T chainwheel is a MUST for me in riding around the hillier parts of Melbourne and in our mountains; and I’m sure for many in other cities around the world. For my hills, a 12sp Titanium with a 44T chainring it would mean less grind (perhaps an RPM near 48) at a speed of 5.4km/hr, and keep me riding to 80! Why doesn’t Brompton add a 44T option to the 12sp Titanium range and provide a 12 sp Titanium that meets the need for a lot more potential Brompton bike riders. It’s a no-brainer; Brompton, it’s time to come to the party!! (Will Butler - Adams, I’m happy to buy you the first drink)
We arrived to the same conclusion: A 12speed+50T is basically only giving you one additional lower gear (ref ua-cam.com/video/5dbbAuFa60s/v-deo.html ) and no advantage over a 6speed+44T. With the C-Line 12 speed due early 2025, it should become easier to configure a 12speed+44T (without paying the P-Line/T-Line premium). PS Col du Tourmalet with loaded Brompton: Kudos!
I upgraded my c line to 12 speed using a minimids kit with lower gear range 11-13-17-21 cogs
I can whole heartedly recommend these tyres as well. I've used them for almost a year on my hybrid, size 29" and they have never ever had a puncture. plus they roll so well and silent. in both winter and summer weather just amazing tech. ridden on 30, 40 and 50 mile rides. 100% recommended.
Great video, as usual! I am thinking of ordering the dual chainring but I am nit sure which one should I select. What are the advantages of the 54T/33T over 50T/33T? Will it give more speed while riding on flat terrain? Would I lose some of the gears in between? Thank you
A 54T/33T would certainly provide a wider range. It has some minor drawbacks however: 1- It requires a longer chain (thus the tensioner is lower and the chain “floppier” while riding with the 33T). 2- The gear overlap between the chainrings is reduced, thus increasing the need to (manually) swap between 33T and 54T as the terrain profile changes. 3- The cadence/speed while using the most efficient gears (direct drive) 2-/2+ was above our regular cruising speed. The 50T was a more efficient match for us while cycling on flat terrain.
Hi, Pam! I really love your and Gilbert's channel. Such great information about bikes, tours, accommodations, etc. By the way, do you come from a scientific/technology background? You seem to cover a lot of wonderful technical details about bikes, bike performance, etc. You may have seen this UA-cam video, but one gentleman installed a front derailleur on his Brompton to toggle between his small and large chain rings, and it seemed to work flawlessly. As a cyclist who has ridden both of these bikes extensively, do you think that the Mariner D8 is significantly disadvantaged compared to the Brompton for the flight to/from, getting around by rail, being able to store your bike in hotel rooms, etc. on the Four Rivers Ride? I absolutely love my Dahon Mariner D8, but I'm wondering if I should just bite the bullet and buy a Brompton C line, 6-speed to get around more easily during this trip? Thank you for your thoughts on this!
The Mariner would have no difficulty tackling the 4 Rivers trail. The issue would be the logistic surrounding air travel. Packing it within the 62in/158cm free allowance would be a serious challenge (some dismantling will be required). Carrying the bike in/out of the hotel room every day would be easier (and cause less discussion) if inside a bag. Vincita makes one for 20” bikes ($US90) that attaches to the saddle when not in use. Finally, you would have to test your pannier/luggage setup (rear rack? Front attachment?) prior to departure to ensure it can accommodate everything you want to bring. A Brompton would certainly make the “non-cycling” part of the trip easier, but travelling with a bike you already own will make you appreciate it even more. Ref Dual Chainring: while a front derailleur would indeed be nice, a 3rd gear shifter would be cumbersome on an M-handlebar. PS Yes, we both worked in the Aerospace Flight Simulation industry for many years.
@@2Bikes4Adventure Thank you so much for all of this very helpful information, Pam - very much appreciated!
I really don't understand why brompton is too stubborn to just use a dual chainring. That 12 speed T-line makes no sense at all, putting a super heavy hub on a lightweight bike. They should've just used this system instead!
Nosed saddles are absolutely horrible. Stopped cycling for 10 years because of it. I got a cheap noseless wide bum seat which is still too small for my fat ass lmao. But it worked on my beach cruiser. I plan to save up some dosh for one of these since it looks like it would solve the problems both nosed saddles and my current noseless saddle are causing me.
Hi, thanks for your video. Did you have to remove the seatpost when fitting the Brompton into the Samsonite Epsilon 29in ?
Yes, we remove the seatpost. It's visible at the top of the suitcase at 02:05 (just under the tire pump, held with a red bungee cord)
Which mini pump are you using? I have Wotancraft bags on my Brampton now too thanks to this video. Thanks for taking the time to share!
It’s a CrankBrothers Power Pro Mini Pump. Purchased a few years ago, it may not be available on the market anymore. We like the side and integrated gauge, but being small, it’s not very efficient.
I use 54/33T chainring on my brompton, and like you i found when touring i just leave it on 33T is very convenient when carrying all the stuff. 54T reduces the overlap between the gearing and increases the range further. I did few tours on it so far - and find it great. I got my local bike shop to install it, and only quoted me £70 for installation, which considering I don't have the tools for bottom bracket removal is worth it. I would also say as the chain ring is actually lighter than the original chainring, it's one of the few mods that increase the range of gears AND you lose few grams, rather than gaining.
You guys are always educational !!! Clear and concise. Thank you. I was thinking about getting a 4-speed Brompton to be used as an urban bike in NYC. Very little hill climbing would be needed. I would like to use a single tooth chainring upfront. What size chainring would you recommend so I could comfortably pedal at 20 mph in 4th gear? The lowest gear doesn't need to go so low. For that rare steep hill, I don't mind getting off the bike and walking. Top speed is more important. Thank you.
You would need a 60T chainring to reach 20mph in 4th gear (assuming a cadence of about 74 rpm)
@@2Bikes4Adventure You're brilliant, as always. Thank you.
Amazing video as usual. I just bought a 6 speed c-line. Is the 12-speed coming out soon?
Only rumours about 2025. Meanwhile, Brompton likely benefits by keeping 12speed exclusive to upscale models (T, P, P-electric, C-electric)
i would heavily suggest traing out Chain Wax instad of Oil .
Thanks for the update and quick explanations, this kind of real world testing is very valuable.
Thanks for this great video, as always @2Bikes4Adventure. I went for the 50-33T upgrade based on our review. It generally works well, but there is a clicking sound when I use 1+, 2+, and 3+ on the 33t chainring. The 1-, 2-, and 3- work well, without the clicking sound. Do you get the same issue? If not, what do you think it could be due to? Thanks!
Sorry to hear about your problem. We don’t experience any clicking while on 33T and the small rear sprocket (13T (+)). To troubleshoot it, turn the crank slowly and notice at which frequency the clicking occurs (ex.: once per chain revolution? once per crank turn? multiple per crank turn? Every chain link? Random?) This could help isolate the source of the mechanical interference. GIve a special look at the rear of the 5 bolts holding the chainring, making sure they do not touch the chain while on 33T. PS Did you experience any problems installing the 3mm bottom bracket spacer?
@@2Bikes4Adventure thank you very much for your quick response. The clicking pattern seems to be once per chain rotation so I will look closely today to determine what is causing the disruption. Knowing that you do not have the same issue and that the 33T chainring should work well with the 13T sprocket is of great help. And yes, I did have the same problem you had with the spacer. They sent me a smaller one but I was prepared because of your warning in the video. I managed to get an adequate replacement friarly quickly here in the UK without having to wait for it to arrive from Taiwan. Many thanks again and keep those great videos coming!
A generic derailleur like the duraace
No one can imitate Brompton's ingenious folding design. Even 2nd best will be much to be desired for folding design and it's simplicity. However, after owning several Brompton over the years, it does have some drawback. Biggest one is the weight. The standard Brompton weighs around 28lbs. It makes a huge difference when you travel with it, especially mass transit. Second is the maintenance. The standard use Sturmey Archer integrated hub design. It is very fragile and requires periodic maintenance. It's definitely old school. So you will likely need to bring it to a Brompton dealer for service regularly to maintain its proper operation. Otherwise, you will start to notice shifting issues. Third is, you will need to wipe off any water if it gets wet. It rusts very quickly if you don't - especially if you live in humid or live where inclimate weather is frequent.
very good video
I have a Dahon vector x27h 20inch folding bike. Is this suitable for long distance touring? Folding size is bigger than brompton. Can i travel by plane with my bike for luggage?
The Vector x27H’s light weight and large gear range would be an asset for multimodal transport and long rides. Baggage(s) attach points could be an issue. As for air travel, its handlebar would be problematic. You would most likely have to remove them if you want to have a chance to fit the bike in an airport approved luggage. Keeping within the 62in/158cm would be a challenge.
I've been a lifelong road bike rider, primarily on bikes with 700c tires. I bought a Brompton about 6 months ago due to 1) desire to travel by air and bring my bike with me, and 2) many years of arthritis in my hands has finally convinced me to move to a less painful riding position of the Brompton, which requires less weight on my hands. I love my Brompton more each time I ride it, due in part to so much less hand pain but also because I just find it quirky and also find that I'm riding a bit slower and just enjoying the slower more deliberate pace and the curious looks of the people I pass. I've wondered what the actual differences were in speed and performance compared to my very fast carbon road bikes, and this video has answered those questions with remarkable accuracy. Thanks so much for making these great videos.
Hopefully you will soon have the chance to travel by air as well. Being able to cycle to/from airports is an added bonus over full size bikes.
I bought the bag and a smaller mount (same width as bag) and fitted the bag vertically instead so it’s easier to access the contents without taking it off. Love these bags so got two and they are my new go to Bikepacking kit.
Using the same Itiwit 20L bag but mounted vertically ?
Yes it works great on the same set up as on the video but is accessible too. I don’t know why they didn’t do that.
I want fluo.
Well done overview, since 5 years with 28,24 and 20 inch old foldings maybe its now time for a quality made 16 type.until last year i didn't know that in the netherlands busses its forbidden to take a bike; exeption a folding type ;-)
Smashing ideas with beautiful sizilian views.On a test ride ride i take my bis discgolf bag in front and fixed it at the steering by the breast belt..these bags are often cheap avaiable , i prefer those with hard bottom and comfortable straps.
Great review and Hope you are still lucky with IT. Just looking for a used one i saw one with 24 Gears but remember He GRIP Shift in my old montague that was Not so fine Like antrigger.qasi understand IT richt the P 8 Mu IS the new model with a more modern Look.
We still use our Dahon Mariner D8 for short trips around town. No mechanical issue yet. Unfortunately, we didn’t have the chance to try any Dahon Mu models (latest versions are 9, 10 and 11 speeds)
Which is best for guys 6’3
Not as much the size as what you plan to do with it. If you plan to hand carry the (folded) bike, taking bus/metro/train on regular basis, go for an H handlebar Brompton. If you want a bicycle for occasional trips around town and/or seasonal vacations, go for the Mariner.
Thanks for the video. I had a Brompton for 20+ years but got a new 6 speed a year ago. Default 50 chainring way too high for me, so replaced with a 44-28 double (new BB needed). In 28 chain *just* clears the chainstay. V low gears but that’s what I like - not had to walk anything yet. Top gear not high but enough for me. Like you a 4 gear overlap so don’t have to do the manual change too often. A front changer would be good, but I agree it’s still a v good setup as is.
I can’t find a samsonite Epsilon on eBay or locally. Do you have another hard case recommendation?
Some Brompton users have been using the Samsonite Stryde Long Journey Rider [ amzn.to/4ddxtjF ]
No good for uk roads with all the potholes if it can’t read shaky camera footage
On Strava Andrew’s power for that climb is 434W
Are there other folding bikes that can be pushed around after being folded like the brompton? Preferably 20"?
The Tern BYB equipped with a Metro Transit Rack comes to mind.
I've always wondered why Brompton kept the dual derailleur-cum-hub contraption instead of using an all-in-the-hub system. Less hassle, less grease, they could also move from chain to belt at the same time.
I had a poor experience dealing with the owner Jeff. Long story but let’s just say I didn’t get the seat. Most bizarre experience I’ve ever had with a sales person. I wonder how this guy can run a business with a personality that was so self righteous and condescending. My advice would be for him to stop lecturing people about the seat and just answer some simple questions, take the money and mail out the seat. This guy can’t get out of his own way. That was my experience anyway.
on long trips i only carry patchkit, tube, spare tyre, spare valve, 3 levers, 3-4-5 mm allen, and a 15 mm wrench. i never remove the pedals and don't carry braking pads and of course this doesn't prepare me for chain problems but i can live with that. i'd just get off and push the bike until i reach a shop if i ever break a chain somehow. i'll consider adding an 8 mm wrench because of this video. never thought about it but this could have come in handy last time the stranded water froze into the brake cable housing right at the caliper where it's going upwards.
Seems like a Tern Link or Dahon MU SL might slot right inbetween these two and address some concerns.
You may be interested in our video comparing a 20” (Dahon Mariner) and 16” (Brompton) ( ua-cam.com/video/p6bjWHg2XJ8/v-deo.html )